#2 - Populism in America & Indonesia with Sidney Jones and Liam Gammon

  
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In this episode we discuss populism, the Trump effect, and the homecoming of Islamist leader Rizieq Shihab to Indonesia. Sidney Jones is the founder and director of the Institute for Policy Analysis of Conflict (IPAC) and Liam Gammon is a PhD candidate at the Australian National University and has written on Indonesian populism in the new book Democracy in Indonesia: From Stagnation to Regression?, by Thomas Power and Eve Warburton (ISEAS Publishing).